Where is the Lebanese Israeli War in Scripture?

[BigBruzer*{MEOW}*]

Believe it or not, the war you are watching on CNN and FOX is in the bible.  The bible prophecies that Israel will withdraw from the West Bank.  They have already announced that the withdrawal is in Ehud Olmerts plan.  Jesus said that when this is done, there will be great tribulation in Judea ( west bank ) such as never was before nor never shall there be.  This is his announced plan.

He also says that in order to do that he needs the support of the International Community for the final borders of the city, thats why he built the wall.  Daniel 9:27 says that the A/C will confirm Israels right to exist in the Holy Land.  They are going to support Israel to exist with safe and secure borders.  Those things must be in place and that is what Ehud Olmert was just talking to the leaders of the world about. 

But then Hamas and Hezbollah kiddnapped these Israeli soldiers,  which trigger this war.  This is what stands between settling the Middle East situation.  The dividing of the land.  Hezbollah says that we want to settle this thing to, but we don't care about the border thing, we just want Israel to be removed from the face of the earth.  So even though the whole world is willing to except the borders, Hamas and the Hezzies are not willing to except.  So that is what this is all about.  The final move to a peace agreement in the land of Israel.  Now even though that Israel has announced the right to exist at the UN Sept. 20, 2005, it may not be the time that marks the beginning of the last 7 seven years.  It may be this final border agreement.  It's sort of hard to determine.  To say something is one thing, to do it is another, right?  It may be an official thing too, like after Israel sets the borders and the UN says....Okay we are ok with that.

Scripture is not that cut and dried, but we are witnessing it i believe.  Maybe after this Leb./ Israeli war is over, the Jews will start to build the temple...I don't know.  Myself I would be leary of the pinheads blowing it up.  I would think after the nuclear holocost, they would build it because they knew it would be a safe time then.  It will only take a few days to complete it as it is all prefabbed.  Who knows, but it is close.

In all, this war is setting up the prophecy of Jesus Christ in Matt. 24. so that the confirmation of the covenant will start.  Lets keep our eye on it.  Never the less!  You must be ready to meet Jesus whether he comes to take his bride home or whether you die first.  If you don't know for sure how to be saved or if you are ready.....ASK ME QUESTIONS!  We will use the bible and common sense.

[THEKATZ*{MEOW}*]

It is all adding up BB.  I do have a question.  No where do I see in the Bible where America and it's stance in all of this.  Can you point me to where it has reference.  Quite honestly, we arent there.  That is real spooky to me.

[NighEve*{MEOW}*]

It is all adding up BB.  I do have a question.  No where do I see in the Bible where America and it's stance in all of this.  Can you point me to where it has reference.  Quite honestly, we arent there.  That is real spooky to me.

Good question..I've wondered this too.  Some say we are the whore mentioned where the merchants were in their ships watching us burn from a far off.  They lament the fact that they made so much money from us but now we are gone.  Some scholars say it is New York only.

What ever our fate I don't believe that the US is moral enough right now to play a part in God's plan other than a negitive or passive one.  Gay marrage, abortion, gambliing... sounds a bit like Noah's time.

[THEKATZ*{MEOW}*]

Yes, that is what I kind of thought.  Thank you  Eve. 

[NighEve*{MEOW}*]

Yes, that is what I kind of thought.  Thank you BB.

Simpy some things I had heard TK.  I'm not BB and dont have his knowledge and decernment.. I'm sure he has a lot to say.  Would not even pretend to try to answer your question.

[BigBruzer*{MEOW}*]

First for Tk's answer.  It doesn't exactly say the USA of course in the scripture.  Nations are noted by their flags or the representations of animals.  Russia...red...communism...animal-- bear.
The USA...heart of a man was given unto it....Uncle Sam....animal-- Eagle.

Well in this scenerio of the Lebanese Israeli war...We are in it up to our eyebrows.  We did the big no no.  It has always been  Ehud Olmerts desire to divide Israel.  George W. Bush has went with the idea and with his credentials the UN will allow this to happen.  The Hezzies and Hamas will succumb to the Israeli's.  Unfortunately we as a country are taking credit for the dividing of the Israel and putting new borders in the land.  For that ... the Lord Jesus has one big nasty reward for that superpower blunder.  We will no longer be a super power.  In the book of Revelation mentions the incident where 1 third of mankind will be killed.  Every country in the world seems like...hates the USA.  As I have written in many topics we evidently take a horrindous hit because we are no longer mentioned in scripture as doing great things.  Our blessing of the USA as we know it...is gone.  It  only mentions us as doing "exploits."    It will be the EU who will be in power during to most of the 7 years of Great Tribulation.  I guess you may say we will still be exploiting the truth of the Lord Jesus, but we really won't have the power to raise our voice to the world and offer help as we have in the past.  I would say put a fork in us, cuz we are done. 

Our sins have really caught up with us...gays, lezzies, gay marriage, homosexuality in the pulpit, greed, immorality, abortion, porno, drugs, violence, murders, removal of prayers..etc.  We have progressively gotten to be down right repulsive.  God has pretty much wieghed our sins and judged us.  Like Belshazzars little party in the book of Daniel.  He took the sacred items from the Jews in captivity, like the temples, goblets, and pitchers etc... He desecrated them by throwing a drunken orgy.  God judged them...the hand appeared  and began to write on the wall.  Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin. ( I think )  I have wieghed you in the balance and have found you wanting.  I have judged you and have divided your land and given it over to the Medes and the Persians...( their enemies )

We too are no better.  I believe now we have been judged and have been found wanting.  Upon the dividing of the land...Micah 2:4 and also in Joel.  No, I don't want to believe it either, but it is in the word of God and we are now in the point of time where it is about to happen.  Lord help us.  Keep your eye on China, because it will start with an army that has 200 million men.  China is that only country.


Tk, here are our countries references...Daniel 7:1-4  We came from England...the Lion.  But we broke away from the mother country ( the lion no longer has wings )  We kept our wings...the new country was given the heart of a man...Uncle Sam.  You see we help.  We can't help it.  We see a need..we help. It's the heart of the man that God gave us.  Unlike Communists..go conquer, kill, destroy...let them rebuild themselves.  Quite a difference.
Revelation 12:14.  These eagles wings signify an air lift by the USA.  From there on...only exploits.
( by the way in that scripture..a time is one year..and times is 2 years.. a half of time is one half year.  So that total comes to....3 1/2 years.
Now to hear what happens to us...it's in Daniel 11:1-45  We are the Kingdom or the country that knows God.  We have preached that God came in the flesh to earth...Jesus Christ.  The jews are still waiting for him.  But as you see in this reading...The AntiChrist has popped up.  Here is what is soooo sooo sad.  The rapture of the church should have taken place by now OK?  Those who have been reborn...or Repented, baptized with the name of Jesus pronounced upon them ( not the father son and holy ghost ) and filled with the Holy Ghost, will be in heaven.  Those who have not are left here.  They are Christians who didn't get the right doctrine told to them....lets look.  Dan 11:32  they are a people who know God and will be strong and do exploits.  They will continue to preach that the system of the AC is corrupt don't believe him, don't take the number!!!  Die, give your life but don't take the mark!!!  Look at 11:33.  They that understand among the people...all the people, shall be killed by sword, ( probably shot ), by flame, by captivity, and by spoil....MANY DAY'S!  11:35 Why?  Why would they do this....some of them understanding the fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white even to the time of the end, because it is yet for a time appointed. 11:36  is about the AC.

I want you to compare this with Revelation.  Rev. 6:9-10 John sees a vision of the time of the AC here.  People are being slain for the testimony which they held.  It is taking many days because it says  How long O Lord holy and true dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them  that dwell on the earth?  And white robes were given unto every one of them that they should rest for a little season until their fellow servants also and brethren that ...."should be killed" as they were should be fulfilled.

TK and all...these people are who are killed...WHERE NOT READY FOR JESUS RETURN.  The bride is in heaven here....these are church people left...note the word "brethern".  That symbolizes church family.  I can't stress enough Repentance, baptism in the name of JESUS, and getting the HOLY GHOST.

Also note that Daniel did not know John...they lived thousand's of years apart, yet they both wrote the same thing of a time that is just around our corner!  Note...if you go to your pastor and ask him about this repentance, baptism in Jesus name, and filling of the Holy Ghost...He will not .... i say he will not say it is truth!  He will tell you to be sprinkled or emmersed in the titles of the father, the son , and the holy ghost.  He will say the holy ghost is not for us.  I can not stress enough...they are wrong.  These people in Dan. and Rev. were left behind for that belief!!

NighEve...I have posted a lesson on the Great Whore or Harlot.  The bible teaches that it is headed up by one who was given a white crown, has a white horse, a bow but no arrows, is on many lands.  It is built on a place where there is 7 mountains, that have 7 kings. It is headed up by those dressed in Purple and Scarlet, ( cardinals and bishops ).  It is drunk on the blood of the saints,....The Catholic Church put to death over 60 million people in an attempt to make them Catholic.  It mentions the whore has daughters which comes from the Protestant break away of the MOTHER Church.  They would not accept prayers to purgatory, baptizing babies, abortion, sprinkling, praying to idols or statues, etc. But they did do one thing...they kept baptizing in the mother church's mode of baptizing...father son holy ghost or spirit.   The truth is...NO ONE IN THE BIBLE WAS EVER BAPTIZED LIKE THIS!  They are not family with out the name of Jesus.  What did Paul say? Eph 4:5...one lord, one faith, one baptism.  How are we renamed? ...In baptism.  Eph.3:14-15 For this cause i bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named!

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.  THE NAME SAVES US GIVEN IN BAPTISM!

Peter preached...Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Paul carried on the doctrine of Peter and Paul said to the Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you that that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed!

The Catholic Church is full of sins, murders, false doctrines, made up stories etc. and Jesus refers to it as the Great Whore and its daughters! 

Please comment on this, I love it!

[THEKATZ*{MEOW}*]

Most excellant post BB, Thank you

[Smooth*{MEOW}*]

Lot of stuff going on now.  Israel is pulling back across the Israeli-Lebanese border after this UN cease fire agreement.  Hezbollah is claiming victory, Iran and Syria are affirming that.  Iran's president Ahmadinejad has publicly stated that the US, Great Britain, and Israel will pay and that they should be put on trial.  I tell you what, I don't trust that guy for an instant.  I think he is the biggest threat to the world right now and if something were to happen he would be the cause.

[BigBruzer*{MEOW}*]

I don't trust him as far as i can throw him Smooth.  We read concerning Israel.... ¶ And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.  This is speaking of the time that we are currently in.  It is not speaking of world wide destruction of course, but of great destruction in Israel.

Pinhead Hezzbo's.

[Smooth*{MEOW}*]

Just finished watching Hugo Chavez's speech to the UN in which he called Bush the devil and said the room smelled of sulfur.  He also accused the US of harboring terrorists.

[THEKATZ*{MEOW}*]

How far and how blind must the wold be that such a statement should have put this over the top.  US harboring terrorist? 
It is not to hard to identify (profile if you will) any turban head.  If it walks like a duck, shoot it!   Of course I am talking about iraticating all Muslims.  I am becoming very aggressive in the idea that genocide is the best means in tackling this issue.  Sad to think in those terms but true.  Of course that is out of the question.
In my own opinion, any and all Islamic believers wether converted or what ever is a threat to you and I.  This simply is unacceptable.  Look at England, they are over ran with the coneheads.  Spain too.  So here is the question.  In WWII, we were attacked by Japan.  Was it really necessary to create concentration camps for all Japanese Americans?  Think on this, I would not even be remotely opposed to lock up, in dirt huddles every Allah believer on this American soil.  Can we do this?  No, the tree huggers and activists would have a tizzy.  So what are we to do.  Nothing, that is right where we are at.  We are going to kill our selves with the government we have. I am not talking about Bush so Bush bashers do not even need to respond.  I am talking about how we let the 3% talk for the other 97%.  I am in the 97% and I say enough.  Torture their asses and get the information we need.  Stop complaining that we shouldn't be over there, make it a crime to be a Muslim  here in the USA.  Man I can go on if you would like.  Hope I did not offend anyone and I pray non of you are in that tree hugging 3%!

[Doball{MEOW}]

Wow!! go get'm TK  I don't believe that will ever happen, or america will be thought of alongside the likes of Hitler, Stalin, and that Chineese guy (never can remember his name). But find me a true American who hasn't had a similar thought and he's probably a red commie bastard...or half french lol.

[THEKATZ*{MEOW}*]

Yes you are so correct, for us to stoop so low is not my intention.  The Jews were not lopping of heads or flying fuel bombs into crowded buildings.  Like a rabid dog they are, they (Muslims) need to be exterminated to preserve any peace in this world.

 

[Darsus]

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[Smooth*{MEOW}*]

Well that just sums it all up Darsus!  Although I doubt the AASA was involved in Saddam's capture.