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« on: February 21, 2006, 01:04:16 AM »

Have been getting some random restarts lately.  This is what comes up after it restarts.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 08:59:38 AM »

smooth go into the bios and set >>>>>> memory acceleration from "enabled" to >>> AUTO.

download powerstrip* and everest ultimate edition*trial*  monitor in real time the 12v rail for the cpu and mem. if can try to start a log. so you can go back and poke around.

noticed that HP image zone icon on your desktop?....did you port over some software there?, i remember from my HP that image zone needed 2 *critical* updates via the HP site  or the result would be loss of function on certain things ,in perticular windows environment issues , im not saying it is this , rather just something to keep an eye on,maybee do some winxp updates and see if some software patches are outstanding?.

but im pretty sure fixing the bios as i first wrote here is a culprit. also wanna find out if "plug and play o/s" is enabled....if so disable it,you really dont want windows telling your machine what to do!,rather have your machine tell windows its cans and cannots!!!!.

also smooth try tracking that link down go see what it is?..from here it looks like an xml? in your temp folders?

C:>documents & settings>Tim`men>local settings> temp folders?..once at the doc+setting folder you may need to activate hidden folders from the options menu before u can see the local settings folder.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2006, 02:08:04 AM »

I can't find memory acceleration in my BIOS Instinct, does Asus have a different name for it?  That HP image zone thing is for my printer/scanner.  I don't even use it aside from the image acquirer for the scanner part or it.  I couldn't install the drivers for the unit without installing that.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2006, 07:15:25 AM »

smooth: it will be one of the first lines in either "chipset" or "cpu" under the advanced tab.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2006, 11:39:17 AM »

Looked in both of those places, is it called "Memclock" ?
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 02:54:43 PM »

our bios rev must be different, smooth poke around under the "chipset", "cpu" or "pci" settings what you need to look for is anything defining itself as"accelerating memory latency from cpu to mobo" if you find it you want it set to auto not enabled.

double check onboard audio is disabled and creative drivers are current.


when in doubt you can always "load setup defaults" in the bios then go back in and reset your fan control ect.< might wanna check that also the cpu heat threshold?.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 04:03:52 PM »

My desktop used to look alot like yours, Smooth. Then I made a folder called 'shortcuts', and lumped all my shortcuts in that folder. Cleaned it up good, and I like it much better.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 12:59:14 AM »

Yeah it's pretty messy.  Instinct, onboard audio is disabled, latest Creative drivers in.  I don't use the fan control, my CPU fan is running full speed all the time.  I've found Qfan to be junk.  Also, I did load setup defaults a few weeks back and haven't changed anything since.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 02:26:31 AM »

Its done it a few times now when I try to shut down.  I hit start, turn off computer, then after I hit turn off, it restarts instead of going through the shut down process.  There is really no pattern I can see to what I'm doing when it restarts.  But it does it at least once or twice a day.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2006, 02:31:22 AM »

Here's the event log from the last one.  As you can see, there was a restart at 12:22:51 PM.  This one happened when I tried to shut down.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2006, 07:37:31 AM »

its definatly a hardware hang , take out a single mem stick see if it happens on just one stick. if yes swap the sticks and try again try to eliminate the memory as culprit.

secondly download lavalys everest and monitor the the 12v rails under load,be sure 12 number 1 is for cpu and 12 number 2 is for periphrials and vga.

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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2006, 11:18:46 AM »

I should have brought this up sooner, but it just popped into my head.  When I got the memory, one of the sticks had a black smudge on the heatspreader.  It wouldn't wipe off, so I figured it was just a deformity in the aluminum or something that got into it when it was cast.  I might try taking the spreader off and have a look under there to be sure.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2006, 09:48:48 AM »

Have you verified that it is a bad stick?  Remove it if you have another and run your machine, see if that is it.  Quite honestly, I don't think it is memory from what I gather.
Shutdown problems in Windows XP can be caused by many factors, just like earlier versions of Windows. These included: a damaged exit sound file; incorrectly configured, damaged, or incompatible hardware; conflicting programs, or an incompatible, damaged, or conflicting device driver.

Disabling the “restart on system failure” feature may permit the exact cause to be isolated: Right-click on My Computer, click Properties, click the Advanced tab. Under “Startup & Recovery,” click Settings. Under “System Failure,” uncheck the box in front of “Automatically restart.”

If you are running any Roxio programs, get rid of it.  it has been a thorn in Windows side since 98. Or if your lucky, try this driver http://www.roxio.com/en/support/ecdc/

Whether or not APM (Advanced Power Management) is enabled makes a difference — but the effect could go two ways. Some users report that XP reboots on shutdown if APM is enabled, but shuts Windows down just fine if APM is disabled. Other users report exactly the opposite behavior. According to Jack Dunne, this is similar to a known Windows 2000 problem. The issue seems related to the computer’s specific hardware or BIOS — so, as with all NT operating systems, stick to the Hardware Compatibility List where possible.

USB Connections As can be seen from remarks in the Misc. Hardware Issues section below, several different USB-related issues can impact shutdown. One of the most concrete examples was a “reboot on shutdown” problem contributed by correspondent Rick Bross. If his several USB devices (PDA cradle, flash card reader, etc) were plugged into the motherboard’s USB ports, his computer would reboot on an attempted shutdown; but when, instead, he plugged them into an external USB 2.0 hub, shutdown went just fine. (This was with Win XP Professional SP1 on a Supermicro X5DAE dual Xeon motherboard. The same devices plugged into an Asus A7M-266D dual AMD 2000MP system on the same OS worked without problem.)


“Wake on” power settings Power-management settings that have the computer “wake” on LAN, USB, modem, or (for that matter) probably anything else may also trigger a restart after shutdown. Correspondent Simon Wei provided this tip after a friend of his found an old old Logitech USB mouse would trigger “wake on USB” after every Windows shutdown. Their solution was to remove that particular mouse and all worked fine. The principle is much more far-reaching than this one example.


Hidden “wake on” power settings If you have an Ethernet card integrated into your motherboard, you may have hidden “wake on” settings that are harder to find. Site visitor Jim Porter found that his Asus P5GDC-V Deluxe motherboard had a “wake on” setting in Device Manager | Properties | Advanced rather than in the BIOS or Power Management settings. (The Asus P5AD2 and P5GD2 boards have this also.)
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2006, 10:54:49 AM »

I've verified that all wake on settings are disabled.  I do use Roxio CD Creator 5, however I was getting the restarts before I installed that also.  Keep in mind it has restarted on me at other times, not just at shutdown a couple times.  Any risk of system damage if I disable auto restart on system failure?  Thanks for the help.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2006, 11:43:55 AM »

smooth: do the mem swap thing, if still the same run memtest app . a wise old geezer once told me , system lock?,system freeze?,system interuption?..1st and most likely suspect is the memory!,either sticks or controller or bios settings. if there is the slightest interuption or adressing to the memory thats it lights out ....blue screen or restart or hang up.

a few ways to give a hand to ur pc is to go into the reg , set "low level hook timeout to =0ms, and "auto end hung apps =0"

download everest it will log system parameters at the failure point,including a psu report.


roll back the audigy driver to the retail install version,just for shits.
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